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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s up with&#8230;PS 90 Condos? by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s always a chance that market units can turn into rentals.  The developers would just have to amend or scrap the offering plan.  Buyers  get their deposits back.  All I can say is if you feel funny or at all unsure about moving there, then don&#039;t.  The lottery was just a chance to buy the unit.  It wasn&#039;t a prize or anything so don&#039;t feel bad or cheated that you aren&#039;t going to take it.

Personally, I think the block is great.  The building will have character (a lot of new developments don&#039;t).  I saw the model apartment and it was impressive.  It&#039;s around the corner from a Police Service Area (Housing Police Station).

Poster number 3 is convinced it will be shoddy construction and I might suspect that from a fly by night developer who is only working on one building but L&amp;M and Goldman Sachs are behind PS90.  L&amp;M has been around for decades and built affordable housing all over the place.

Will the building have problems?  Sure. But will it fall apart in 5 or 10 years?  I hope not.  

It&#039;s a tough decision.  But don&#039;t feel pressured into buying it just because you won the lottery.

That said, you can probably get a GREAT DEAL in the South Bronx.  And with the Gateway Center Mall and the new Yankee Stadium, it&#039;s almost like the Bronx has a real downtown (I&#039;m from the Bronx originally).

Good Luck.  Go with your gut and your heart and your head, but not it that order.  Reverse it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s always a chance that market units can turn into rentals.  The developers would just have to amend or scrap the offering plan.  Buyers  get their deposits back.  All I can say is if you feel funny or at all unsure about moving there, then don&#8217;t.  The lottery was just a chance to buy the unit.  It wasn&#8217;t a prize or anything so don&#8217;t feel bad or cheated that you aren&#8217;t going to take it.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the block is great.  The building will have character (a lot of new developments don&#8217;t).  I saw the model apartment and it was impressive.  It&#8217;s around the corner from a Police Service Area (Housing Police Station).</p>
<p>Poster number 3 is convinced it will be shoddy construction and I might suspect that from a fly by night developer who is only working on one building but L&amp;M and Goldman Sachs are behind PS90.  L&amp;M has been around for decades and built affordable housing all over the place.</p>
<p>Will the building have problems?  Sure. But will it fall apart in 5 or 10 years?  I hope not.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tough decision.  But don&#8217;t feel pressured into buying it just because you won the lottery.</p>
<p>That said, you can probably get a GREAT DEAL in the South Bronx.  And with the Gateway Center Mall and the new Yankee Stadium, it&#8217;s almost like the Bronx has a real downtown (I&#8217;m from the Bronx originally).</p>
<p>Good Luck.  Go with your gut and your heart and your head, but not it that order.  Reverse it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s up with&#8230;PS 90 Condos? by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harlemite - I would strongly disagree with you.  First of all the term &quot;luxury&quot; is applied to anything in Harlem that&#039;s built...and does not mean it actually is....(if you know what I mean).  Secondly, just because something is &quot;so-called&quot; inside and lottery based does not mean it&#039;s a &quot;steal&quot;, or even a &quot;deal&quot;.  An Example would be Beacon Towers @ 5th Ave between 138th &amp; 139th, &quot;so called Luxury&quot;, blah blah blah, and a lottery development/HPD, etc.    Well, Lots of people won, and after winning and the market re-adjusting....that &quot;inside&quot; price was above market and nonsensical.   Beacon Towers could not sell to the &quot;lottery winners&quot;, they all passed.   I believe that&#039;s a deal with Lemle and Wolff, Inc. with Abyssinian Development Corporation.  Also, when a developer builds knowing the prices are capped on a certain amount of units (and profits controlled basically) - from the developer&#039;s standpoint it becomes a race to the bottom, cut every corner you can, as the profit is in getting the building up, quality be damned.   Talk to Bradhurst dwellers about shoddy quality of &quot;new construction&quot;.   Never buy into a HPD type of  project at market rate - the days of Harlem &quot;set aside&quot; deals died 4 - 5 years ago.  No more are there real deals like Rosa Parks, I have friend that got into the Renaissance Bldg, 2 Bedroom for under $10,000 in &#039;01 or &#039;02 as I recall, they basically gave the shares away.  The last &quot;deal&quot; was that development called &quot;Strivers ____?&quot; at the top of 135th above 8th Ave.   I believe some people got 1 and 2 bedrooms for under $200K 4 or 5 years ago.   Since then.....these HPD &quot;deals&quot; really have not been &quot;deals&quot; at all...and just wait when the new construction falls apart in 5, 10 years...watch how expensive it is to fix stuff.....if I had a $300K budget today, I sooner go to SoBro and get some space, than this shoddy constructed bldg....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harlemite &#8211; I would strongly disagree with you.  First of all the term &#8220;luxury&#8221; is applied to anything in Harlem that&#8217;s built&#8230;and does not mean it actually is&#8230;.(if you know what I mean).  Secondly, just because something is &#8220;so-called&#8221; inside and lottery based does not mean it&#8217;s a &#8220;steal&#8221;, or even a &#8220;deal&#8221;.  An Example would be Beacon Towers @ 5th Ave between 138th &amp; 139th, &#8220;so called Luxury&#8221;, blah blah blah, and a lottery development/HPD, etc.    Well, Lots of people won, and after winning and the market re-adjusting&#8230;.that &#8220;inside&#8221; price was above market and nonsensical.   Beacon Towers could not sell to the &#8220;lottery winners&#8221;, they all passed.   I believe that&#8217;s a deal with Lemle and Wolff, Inc. with Abyssinian Development Corporation.  Also, when a developer builds knowing the prices are capped on a certain amount of units (and profits controlled basically) &#8211; from the developer&#8217;s standpoint it becomes a race to the bottom, cut every corner you can, as the profit is in getting the building up, quality be damned.   Talk to Bradhurst dwellers about shoddy quality of &#8220;new construction&#8221;.   Never buy into a HPD type of  project at market rate &#8211; the days of Harlem &#8220;set aside&#8221; deals died 4 &#8211; 5 years ago.  No more are there real deals like Rosa Parks, I have friend that got into the Renaissance Bldg, 2 Bedroom for under $10,000 in &#8216;01 or &#8216;02 as I recall, they basically gave the shares away.  The last &#8220;deal&#8221; was that development called &#8220;Strivers ____?&#8221; at the top of 135th above 8th Ave.   I believe some people got 1 and 2 bedrooms for under $200K 4 or 5 years ago.   Since then&#8230;..these HPD &#8220;deals&#8221; really have not been &#8220;deals&#8221; at all&#8230;and just wait when the new construction falls apart in 5, 10 years&#8230;watch how expensive it is to fix stuff&#8230;..if I had a $300K budget today, I sooner go to SoBro and get some space, than this shoddy constructed bldg&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s up with&#8230;PS 90 Condos? by dasit</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do hear what you&#039;re saying Harlemite.  And, ordinarily, 300K for an 800 square foot studio would be a good deal.  When it comes to this lottery, however, I think there might be a few problems:

1.  The income cap for units at this price is 77-113K annually.  (There were a few 205K studios and one 1BR which are now gone.  The income cap for those was 57-78K).  Maintenance will be at least $600/month.  So, for people at the lower end, assuming, say a 5% mortgage interest rate, the mortgage and maintenance alone is almost 50% of gross income.  That&#039;s a lot.  Seems contrary to the idea of making something &quot;affordable&quot; for certain buyers.  Especially when the developers bought the building from the city for one dollar ($1) and are doing everything they can to chintz down the affordable units (e.g., the market rate units have real hardwood floors; the affordable units have carpeting.)

2.  There are 20 &quot;affordable&quot; units.  The other 74 are priced at market rate:  

http://www.halstead.com/developments_search.aspx?numb=68786

But which market?!  The 450-800K asking price is about equivalent to another recent condo conversion in the vicinity -- the Langston at 68 and Bradhurst -- and sales started there in about 2006, if I remember correctly.  Maybe half a million dollars for a studio made sense in 2006 (if it ever does), but in 2009?  On 148th and FDB?  I just don&#039;t see that being a realistic ask and, if the market units don&#039;t sell, won&#039;t the affordable owners not be able to take possession?  Isn&#039;t that the way these lotteries work?  Or, isn&#039;t there a chance that the unsold market units would be turned into rentals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do hear what you&#8217;re saying Harlemite.  And, ordinarily, 300K for an 800 square foot studio would be a good deal.  When it comes to this lottery, however, I think there might be a few problems:</p>
<p>1.  The income cap for units at this price is 77-113K annually.  (There were a few 205K studios and one 1BR which are now gone.  The income cap for those was 57-78K).  Maintenance will be at least $600/month.  So, for people at the lower end, assuming, say a 5% mortgage interest rate, the mortgage and maintenance alone is almost 50% of gross income.  That&#8217;s a lot.  Seems contrary to the idea of making something &#8220;affordable&#8221; for certain buyers.  Especially when the developers bought the building from the city for one dollar ($1) and are doing everything they can to chintz down the affordable units (e.g., the market rate units have real hardwood floors; the affordable units have carpeting.)</p>
<p>2.  There are 20 &#8220;affordable&#8221; units.  The other 74 are priced at market rate:  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.halstead.com/developments_search.aspx?numb=68786" rel="nofollow">http://www.halstead.com/developments_search.aspx?numb=68786</a></p>
<p>But which market?!  The 450-800K asking price is about equivalent to another recent condo conversion in the vicinity &#8212; the Langston at 68 and Bradhurst &#8212; and sales started there in about 2006, if I remember correctly.  Maybe half a million dollars for a studio made sense in 2006 (if it ever does), but in 2009?  On 148th and FDB?  I just don&#8217;t see that being a realistic ask and, if the market units don&#8217;t sell, won&#8217;t the affordable owners not be able to take possession?  Isn&#8217;t that the way these lotteries work?  Or, isn&#8217;t there a chance that the unsold market units would be turned into rentals?</p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s up with&#8230;PS 90 Condos? by Harlemite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harlemite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In NYC, 300k for a brand new luxury condo is a steal. It is very affordable. Lotteries can&#039;t negotiate ecause their prices are already so low and set by several agencies. The prices are determined by the cost of the building and the underlying mortage and funding that made the unit so low priced in the first place. 

These programs work for keeping the middle class in NYC so the city doesn&#039;t have a drain to the suburbs and it cAn keep the tax revenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In NYC, 300k for a brand new luxury condo is a steal. It is very affordable. Lotteries can&#8217;t negotiate ecause their prices are already so low and set by several agencies. The prices are determined by the cost of the building and the underlying mortage and funding that made the unit so low priced in the first place. </p>
<p>These programs work for keeping the middle class in NYC so the city doesn&#8217;t have a drain to the suburbs and it cAn keep the tax revenue.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s up with&#8230;Island Salad? by AW</title>
		<link>http://uptownflavor.com/2009/11/18/whats-up-with-island-salad/#comment-33453</link>
		<dc:creator>AW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>island salad is slated to open Black Friday according to it&#039;s owner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>island salad is slated to open Black Friday according to it&#8217;s owner.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Get Paid to Play by Annette Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annette Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Promotional Idea.  Get the word out more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Promotional Idea.  Get the word out more!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Den Returns to the Harlem Scene by Anon</title>
		<link>http://uptownflavor.com/2009/11/16/the-den-returns-to-the-harlem-scene/#comment-33450</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to LovingLenox, here is a partial answer:

The language of the New York State Alcoholic Beverage Control Law prohibits certain licences from being issued if the establishment is on the same street and within 200 feet of a building being &quot;used exclusively as a school, church, synagogue or other place of worship...&quot;.  To the extent that many churches in Harlem are not used &quot;exclusively&quot; as churches, but also serve other secular functions, these other functions may suffice to permit the issuance of a license.  

In addition, exceptions to the rule exist, including, for example, that licences that were issued to an establishment operating in a certain location prior to when a building within 200 feet first began to be used as a church/school, such establishments may continue to renew their licences.    

Also, the statute allows a licensee to move a licensed premises that has an exception to another location within 200 feet of the school/church, as long as the new location is not closer than the old location.  While this is generally interpreted to mean that the licensed premises may move to a new location within 200 feet of the same school/church, it may be argued that the statute permits the licensee to move to within 200 feet of another school/church as well, since once the original establishment is moved, no further licences may be issued at that location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to LovingLenox, here is a partial answer:</p>
<p>The language of the New York State Alcoholic Beverage Control Law prohibits certain licences from being issued if the establishment is on the same street and within 200 feet of a building being &#8220;used exclusively as a school, church, synagogue or other place of worship&#8230;&#8221;.  To the extent that many churches in Harlem are not used &#8220;exclusively&#8221; as churches, but also serve other secular functions, these other functions may suffice to permit the issuance of a license.  </p>
<p>In addition, exceptions to the rule exist, including, for example, that licences that were issued to an establishment operating in a certain location prior to when a building within 200 feet first began to be used as a church/school, such establishments may continue to renew their licences.    </p>
<p>Also, the statute allows a licensee to move a licensed premises that has an exception to another location within 200 feet of the school/church, as long as the new location is not closer than the old location.  While this is generally interpreted to mean that the licensed premises may move to a new location within 200 feet of the same school/church, it may be argued that the statute permits the licensee to move to within 200 feet of another school/church as well, since once the original establishment is moved, no further licences may be issued at that location.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seasonal Work: UPS by Shena Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shena Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An application were submitted by me about three weeks ago. I&#039;m still waiting and hopeing for a response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An application were submitted by me about three weeks ago. I&#8217;m still waiting and hopeing for a response.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Den Returns to the Harlem Scene by LovingLenox</title>
		<link>http://uptownflavor.com/2009/11/16/the-den-returns-to-the-harlem-scene/#comment-33448</link>
		<dc:creator>LovingLenox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Harlem Law about not being able to serve  or sellalcohol within 200&#039; or 100&#039; or whatever it is....of a Church &amp; School has often been noted as the reason Lenox Ave can never develop (too many churches &amp; schools on that block).   However The Den formerly was located adjacent to a church and shared a same wall/structure with a Church.    And I know OneBar (formerly the Caviar place) is directly across the street and within the &quot;No Sell Alcohol Zone&quot; of that big church on the corner, and I am willing to bet the new location of The Den is within the Zoning &quot;No Can Do&quot; distance.

What&#039;s the deal?  Is that law and that often used excuse valid?  How do these business seem to get around that law?   Curious because it&#039;s been a heavily used excuse, and by the looks of it, business sell alcohol within 75&#039; of a church/school with no problem in Harlem.   Again, the Den used to be next door sharing the same wall with a Church...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Harlem Law about not being able to serve  or sellalcohol within 200&#8242; or 100&#8242; or whatever it is&#8230;.of a Church &amp; School has often been noted as the reason Lenox Ave can never develop (too many churches &amp; schools on that block).   However The Den formerly was located adjacent to a church and shared a same wall/structure with a Church.    And I know OneBar (formerly the Caviar place) is directly across the street and within the &#8220;No Sell Alcohol Zone&#8221; of that big church on the corner, and I am willing to bet the new location of The Den is within the Zoning &#8220;No Can Do&#8221; distance.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the deal?  Is that law and that often used excuse valid?  How do these business seem to get around that law?   Curious because it&#8217;s been a heavily used excuse, and by the looks of it, business sell alcohol within 75&#8242; of a church/school with no problem in Harlem.   Again, the Den used to be next door sharing the same wall with a Church&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Harlem Costco Opening November 12 by Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I meant to type &quot;they should think of another way to enter/exit the complex BESIDES 116th St. or it&#039;ll be a holy mess.&quot;</description>
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